Interesting discussion on C-130 Stall

Kinja'd!!! "RacinBob" (racinbob)
05/06/2018 at 16:36 • Filed to: None

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Discussion of prior stall events.

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The plane that crashed in Georgia.

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DISCUSSION (4)


Kinja'd!!! ttyymmnn > RacinBob
05/06/2018 at 17:51

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I’ll read this later. Thanks. There is video of the Herk turning over and nosing in. Tough to watch.


Kinja'd!!! RacinBob > ttyymmnn
05/06/2018 at 21:25

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Yep. The older I get, the more I realize that it ain’t cool to watch people’s last moments. Car crashes, plane crashes, gun cams, just ain’t cool.

Only reason I watched was wondering what took it down. Looks like some kind of stall.


Kinja'd!!! Tristan > RacinBob
05/06/2018 at 22:30

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This is the only viable explanation I can imagine.

(From HerkyBirds) Rudder stall:

“Can occur at all speeds between stall speed and approximately 170 KIAS in all flap configurations with power on. The susceptibility of encountering the fin stall condition is greatest at low speed with high power on. Rapid yawing can be produced with (1) relitively low abrupt rudder inputs or (2) abnormally high rudder deflections. As the airplane attude approaches the critical sideslip angle, heavy verticle fin buffet will develop. WARNING If the airplane is allowed to proceed into sideslip angles beyond the onset of buffet, a wing may stall resulting in loss of lateral and directional stability from which it may be extremely difficult to recover. This could lead to the possible loss of the airplane.”

All I know is that they took off, then quickly called in an IFE (in-flight emergency) and were on their way back. I’ve been around some old E-models that were boneyard-bound and clearly flying with waivers that normally would never be approved, either that or the crew just decided to turn a blind eye (aileron boost pack dripping hydraulic fluid on my feet, for instance).

I’ve spent years traveling the globe on C-130s, crawling over every inch of them, doing unauthorized max power engine runs in Greece after being awake for 46 hours, visiting nearly every continent, learning every system to the best of my ability, knowing my aircraft were watching over and providing protection for our fighting men on the ground, standing by nervously after hearing an IFE come over the radio... This one hurts. I lie awake thinking about this incident.

In 2013, I was headed from Bangor to the Azores aboard a Little Rock H model slick when an autopilot malfunction caused the elevators to go to full down. The sudden drop in altitude was sheer terror. The pilot recovered quickly and delivered us safely to our destination, but remembering that feeling and knowing it’s exactly the feeling those men felt... My god.


Kinja'd!!! RacinBob > Tristan
05/06/2018 at 22:57

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Flying planes looks easy except when they stall. You ought to consider contacting Tyler at the drive, he’d be interested in knowing more. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20590/puerto-rico-national-guard-wc-130h-hurricane-hunter-crashes-in-a-ball-of-fire-in-georgia